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"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale) 01/07/2017 at 14:06 • Filed to: jaguar, TDVi, twin turbo, xj6

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I really want 2008 Jaguar XJ6 TDVi Sport Premium (X358)

Why didn’t we get these in the US?

Forge Crown Victor! > CaptDale - is secretly British 01/07/2017 at 14:14

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Because diesel. Also, why do you want a rolling electrical issue?

CaptDale - is secretly British > Forge Crown Victor! 01/07/2017 at 14:24

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I bet we would have gotten it if it was a diesel truck bro!

Do you forget I own a 928 and a ‘69 Sprite that is filled with Lucas? I love british cars and quirky electrics......

E90M3 > CaptDale - is secretly British 01/07/2017 at 14:26

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That’s because trucks don’t have the same emission standards that cars do.

CaptDale - is secretly British > E90M3 01/07/2017 at 14:30

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I meant because it would actually sell here as a truck because no one buys diesel cars except VW people and look at them now....

E90M3 > CaptDale - is secretly British 01/07/2017 at 14:34

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Oh I get what you’re saying now. I mean BMW and Mercedes both offer diesels and they seem to sell a few.

CaptDale - is secretly British > E90M3 01/07/2017 at 14:50

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Yeah, that is true, but I bet nowhere near the numbers they do across the pond.

“Diesels are wildly popular in Europe, accounting for roughly 50 percent of the car market there. So why don’t automakers simply bring the European cars here? It comes down to intrinsic differences between U.S. and European governmental policies, consumer demand and fuel prices.” The Future of Diesels in the US: Analysis

This is actually a pretty interesting read and they point out emission restrictions.

And then there’s another challenge for diesels—stricter U.S. emission regulations. The 50-state light-duty vehicle limit for emissions of nitrogen oxides is 0.07 grams per mile. In Western Europe, the limit is 0.29.

Holy shit that is wild. The difference in amount of pollutants allowed per mile. But honestly I would much rather have a diesel than a Hybrid or electric until our power grid is off fossil fuels. Otherwise they are just demanding more electricity that is in turn still burning more fossil fuels.

Svend > CaptDale - is secretly British 01/07/2017 at 15:41

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Diesels are getting looked at by many Euro governments for more strict emissions.

Some diesels can be problematic for short runs (which probably won’t be an issue in the U.S. where commutes are generally much longer) and doing regen cycles.

I’ve a petrol 1.4TSi ACT 148bhp in a car that is essentially a VW Passat (in Europe the Skoda Superb gets the same engines as the VW Passat also, where in the U.K. the Passat is a diesel only car) and get 44-47 mpg (37-39 mpg US) around town. It’s no slouch either.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Svend 01/07/2017 at 15:50

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Yeah, I have been reading dieselgate has been effecting sales over there too. You would be astounded at the amount of trucks we get in our shop that we have to force regen because these guys buy them as farmtrucks so they never see the highway to get the regen ran.

Svend > CaptDale - is secretly British 01/07/2017 at 16:01

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Dieselgate didn’t effect us much in that the U.K. government said if you want to keep your car the way it is, fine, you don’t have to have the car ‘fixed’ if you don’t want to, nor will you be penalised for it.

European governments are removing incentives or putting requirements on diesel cars in certain cities. I think France was talking about banning them in big cities altogether by 2020.

Governments were of the opinion that diesels were cleaner and reduced the tax on them or added incentives to buy one over the petrol alternative but over the years diesel went from being cheaper than petrol to more than petrol. Some towns and cites had a higher congestion charge for bringing in a diesel, some made it a fine able offence to sit in stationary traffic with your diesel engine running.

Petrols are doing just as well for mpg these days.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Svend 01/07/2017 at 16:04

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Ah ok... Interesting.